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EPISODE 7 | Jun, 16, 2026

The Price of Belonging: How America Decides What Counts as Religion

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Summary

Under the backdrop of our nation’s 250th anniversary, Our Seven Neighbors, season 5, explores the long, contested history of religious diversity in the United States—not as a feel-good celebration of pluralism, but as a hard-won achievement forged through conflict, exclusion, resistance, and moral struggle. Episode 7 features host Reza Aslan in conversation with Dr. Kathleen Flake.

Meet The Guest

Kathleen Flake

Kathleen Flake is Richard Lyman Bushman Professor in Mormon Studies Emerita, the University of Virginia. She taught courses in American religious history and in the interaction of American religion and law. Her primary research interests are in the adaptive strategies of American religions and First Amendment questions of church and state. She is the author of The Politics of Religious Identity: the Seating of Senator Reed Smoot, Mormon Apostle (University of North Carolina Press, 2004). She has held office in the American Academy of Religion, the American Society of Church History, and the Southeastern Commission for the Study of Religion. She received the Ph.D. from the University of Chicago in History of Christianity and the M.A. in Religious Studies from Catholic University of America.


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