"The Shame" of the Undocumented: Identity, Healing, and Hope w/ Dr. Norma Ramirez
Summary
Host Rev. Sex engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Norma Ramirez, discussing the intersections of undocumented status, shame, gender, and spirituality within the context of their personal and professional life. The dialogue navigates the parallels between political and religious shame, the influence of harmful theological narratives, and the significance of reclaiming one's inherent worth. Emphasizing collective healing and spirituality, they also explore the unknown aspects of a relationship with God and the importance of ancestral wisdom and interconnectedness in the journey toward justice and healing.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction
00:35 Understanding 'Sinvergüenza'
01:51 Personal Experiences of Shame and Guilt
03:27 Parallels Between Political and Religious Shame
06:19 Theological Education and Personal Reflections
10:20 Navigating Emotions and Trauma
15:55 Maintaining Humanity in Challenging Times
24:39 Facing Terror and Uncertainty
28:54 Exploring the Origins of Messages and Belonging
30:01 Checking In With Yourself and Questioning Messages
32:15 Navigating Shame, Gender, and Sexuality
40:43 The Journey Through Seminary and Faith
42:42 The Mystery of God and Personal Struggles
43:54 Fighting for DACA and Personal Resilience
50:26 Words of Wisdom and Ancestral Connections
53:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Meet The Guest
Dr. Norma Ramirez
Dr. Norma Ramirez (She/ Her/ Ella) is a California and Nevada licensed psychologist dedicated to serving diverse populations, including undocumented immigrants, first-generation professionals, neurodivergent individuals, and the LGBTQ community. A passionate immigrant advocate, Dr. Ramirez was a plaintiff against DACA's 2017 rescission and has been recognized by the Biden and Harris Administration as a Latinx leader. Her professional approach is deeply influenced by her own marginalized identities, spirituality, activism, and varied professional roles.
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